Buongiorno,



la prima domanda che vi pongo è se posso fare un tipo particellare e contestualmente demolire un fabbricato presente in una particella poco distante?



la seconda invece è un aiuto alla compilazione del modello censuario.

La particella in oggetto ha una superficie di 01.90.88 in realtà è 02.09.22.



ultima domanda vanno inserite linee rosse? perchè in qualche modo sono arrivato all'ultima fase di pregeo ma mi bloccavano la proposta per mancanza di segmenti rossi.( anche se non penso visto che linee rosse e nere in mappa non possono sovrapporsi)



grazie



buona giornata

Salve

Tecnicamente NO, uno ha uno scopo ben preciso calcolare la sup. reale di un lotto e l'altro quello di demolire un fabbricato.

Saluti cordiali

grazie della precisazione, sai qualcosa riguardo anche l'errore che mi da in quanto vuole segmenti di colore rosso?



Grazie

Non ci sono righe rosse. La demolizione totale di particella edificata è trattata dalla Tipologia 3 del Pregeo10.

Ciao.

problema risolto dopo la riga 9 ho inserito

6|CONFERMA TOPOGRAFICA OVVERO PER MIGLIORE PRECISAZIONE DI SUPERFICIE|

1900 mq di differenza di superficie, non credo rientri nella tolleranza prevista. Forse è il caso di verificare al terreni se la particella sia stata oggetto o meno di fusione non inserita in atti. Inoltre occorre misurare tutto il contorno di una particellona di quasi 21000 mq i cui confini sono esattamente rappresentati e formalizzati sul posto.... lo puoi fare, ma spero tu abbia preso tutte le cautele a disposizione per una dichiarazione del genere. D'altronde la fortuna aiuta gli audaci.

Ciao.

Ciao Prandino

Tanto per dover di cronaca, se sei così gentile, a spiegarci come l'hai impostato il tuo tipo, cioè con quale tipologia e magari anche una copia allegata del libretto delle misure. Sai sono veramente curioso del tuo caso e la tua dellucidazione servirebbe a tutta la comunità.

Non ti sembra che sia troppo limitativo dire problema risolto e basta???



Su corraggio illuminaci che servirà a tutti.



Ciao e buon lavoro

Non se la tua risposta era per prendermi in giro comunque non fa niente.

Allora premetto che non ne ho mai fatti ,

l'ho impostato cosi:



9|418|10|20|-3150|PREGEO 10.00-G,Stda 1.13|PA|TOPCON GR-5|

6|CONFERMA TOPOGRAFICA OVVERO PER MIGLIORE PRECISAZIONE DI SUPERFICIE|

1|1000|4391293.21,874169.68,4527754.59|0.000| |

6|L2|15042013-07:52|07062013-15:00|RTK|PDOP=1|

2|101|2963.288,-2025.569,-2349.357|0.00011091,0.000002707,0.00004634,0.00001788,0.000006842,0.00005452|PDOP=1|2.017|filare|

2|102|2963.283,-2025.552,-2349.347|0.00018274,0.000006404,0.00007922,0.00002880,0.00001201,0.00008792|PDOP=1|2.017|filare|

2|103|2956.690,-2025.031,-2344.508|0.00018431,0.00003087,0.00009379,0.00004670,0.00002905,0.00013316|PDOP=1|2.017|filare|

2|104|2963.518,-2040.614,-2346.816|0.00010699,0.00002365,0.00006191,0.00003598,0.00002796,0.00009644|PDOP=1|2.017|filare|

2|105|2958.526,-2054.189,-2339.868|0.00008029,0.00001084,0.00004225,0.00002218,0.00001321,0.00006455|PDOP=1|2.017|filare|

2|106|2956.124,-2061.259,-2336.505|0.00005263,0.000002263,0.00002860,0.00001189,0.000004661,0.00003960|PDOP=1|2.017|filare|

2|107|2954.689,-2064.719,-2335.051|0.00048244,0.00004462,0.00017100,0.00005112,0.00002645,0.00016316|PDOP=1|2.017|filare|

2|108|2949.291,-2075.880,-2327.615|0.00020453,-0.00001943,0.00009866,0.00003631,-0.000001879,0.00010220|PDOP=2|2.017|filare|

2|109|2945.616,-2079.639,-2323.371|0.00145423,0.00006016,0.00051417,0.00011676,0.00005476,0.00040197|PDOP=3|2.017|filare|

2|110|2930.983,-2077.848,-2310.682|0.00005574,0.000002792,0.00002726,0.00001262,0.000003410,0.00005896|PDOP=1|2.617|filare|

2|111|2926.588,-2075.687,-2305.488|0.00011622,0.000004382,0.00006218,0.00002609,0.000009161,0.00010123|PDOP=1|2.617|filare|

2|112|2925.586,-2076.304,-2304.388|0.00007618,0.000003405,0.00003863,0.00001755,0.000007032,0.00006267|PDOP=1|2.617|filare|

2|113|2925.984,-2074.226,-2305.181|0.00008523,0.000008012,0.00004332,0.00002204,0.00001616,0.00009167|PDOP=2|2.617|filare|

2|114|2924.961,-2074.868,-2304.123|0.00015726,0.000005525,0.00008354,0.00004184,0.00003420,0.00020597|PDOP=1|2.617|filare|

2|PF29/0120/F---|2902.614,-2119.125,-2291.919|0.00037351,-0.000001179,0.00016896,0.00006922,0.00002406,0.00025856|PDOP=2|2.617|PF29/0120/F---|

2|116|2833.051,-1949.363,-2333.623|0.00011461,0.000002609,0.00003403,0.00003097,0.00003504,0.00013862|PDOP=2|2.617|st|

2|117|2834.415,-1950.311,-2334.822|0.00027793,-0.000001915,0.00009980,0.00007918,0.00007634,0.00032816|PDOP=2|2.617|st|

2|118|2849.631,-1911.790,-2356.436|0.00020899,0.000009878,0.00006282,0.00003734,0.00003768,0.00023889|PDOP=3|2.617|st|

2|119|2851.408,-1913.128,-2357.804|0.00037979,0.00002322,0.00018150,0.00008394,0.00008173,0.00040332|PDOP=2|2.617|st|

2|120|2873.746,-1869.973,-2385.645|0.00056655,-0.00008484,-0.000005128,0.00006205,0.00005941,0.00032105|PDOP=3|2.617|st|

2|121|2873.819,-1870.019,-2385.746|0.00025127,-0.000002218,0.00006486,0.00003782,0.00004724,0.00030479|PDOP=2|2.617|canc|

2|122|2876.009,-1818.030,-2394.254|0.00029663,0.00003489,0.00013930,0.00007884,0.00009967,0.00045853|PDOP=2|2.617|canc|

2|123|2880.691,-1810.074,-2398.928|0.00018680,-0.00003005,0.00001225,0.00004111,-0.00003663,0.00050019|PDOP=3|2.617|canc|

2|124|2880.797,-1805.756,-2399.273|0.00073019,-0.00013684,0.00009027,0.00017851,-0.00018261,0.00198381|PDOP=3|2.617|canc|

2|125|2898.362,-1773.421,-2418.583|0.00018711,0.00003084,0.00011104,0.00005098,0.00005206,0.00021089|PDOP=2|2.617|canc|

2|126|3225.561,-1716.897,-2750.209|0.00032525,-0.00011792,0.00012627,0.00013492,-0.000009670,0.00016745|PDOP=1|2.017|pino|

2|127|3255.439,-1691.235,-2793.602|0.00124321,-0.00037143,0.00048090,0.00028161,-0.00007964,0.00036881|PDOP=3|2.017|pino|

2|128|3268.356,-1677.949,-2812.120|0.00015470,0.00002207,0.00007538,0.00004468,0.00002592,0.00012218|PDOP=1|2.017|pino|

2|129|3285.305,-1664.050,-2835.651|0.00049818,0.00007559,0.00065214,0.00015459,0.00024639,0.00246681|PDOP=1|2.017|pino|

2|130|3311.452,-1665.994,-2865.738|0.00011034,0.000002278,0.00004697,0.00003221,0.00001471,0.00006170|PDOP=2|2.017|

2|131|3311.707,-1664.635,-2866.735|0.00008191,-0.000002180,0.00002833,0.00002101,0.00001041,0.00005118|PDOP=1|2.017|

2|132|3311.082,-1664.640,-2865.885|0.00011034,0.000002278,0.00004697,0.00003221,0.00001471,0.00006170|PDOP=2|2.017|PA|

2|133|3071.922,-1367.009,-2759.360|0.00018639,0.00007244,0.00013496,0.00007720,0.00003870,0.00023737|PDOP=2|2.017|

2|134|3070.279,-1366.219,-2758.260|0.00015648,0.00009795,0.00012477,0.00010732,0.00007580,0.00018061|PDOP=3|2.017|

2|PF02/0160/F--|3071.230,-1365.392,-2759.170|0.00018639,0.00007244,0.00013496,0.00007720,0.00003870,0.00023737|PDOP=2|2.017|PF02/0160/F---|

Ciao prandino

Ci mancherebbe prandino, se ti sei sentito preso in giro da me, MI SCUSO PUBBLICAMENTE, era per capire se il tuo libretto soddisfava il quesito iniziale di "Tipo particellare con demolizione".

Che tuttavia ancora non mi è chiaro perchè mancano le vettorizzazioni, il modello integrato, e poi ti confesso io di GPS non ci capisco un bel niente.

Ciao prandino e buon lavoro

Ciao, no no tranquillo mi scuso io, ecco l'altra parte di libretto

2|201|3149.086,-1737.904,-2672.399|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|202|3169.109,-1721.159,-2694.921|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|203|3219.330,-1701.339,-2747.162|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|204|3221.010,-1704.140,-2748.246|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|205|3235.589,-1695.654,-2763.935|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|206|3226.400,-1668.295,-2760.310|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|207|3221.800,-1673.408,-2754.894|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|208|3218.559,-1668.855,-2752.640|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|209|3226.525,-1660.202,-2761.982|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|210|3220.336,-1641.067,-2759.676|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|211|3192.116,-1613.652,-2737.704|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|212|3175.882,-1592.012,-2726.190|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|213|3157.415,-1567.378,-2713.094|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|214|3150.546,-1556.779,-2708.498|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|215|3122.326,-1585.446,-2675.785|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|216|3096.258,-1612.828,-2645.395|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|217|3094.426,-1626.433,-2641.021|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|218|3094.223,-1661.620,-2634.087|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|219|3095.834,-1661.320,-2635.698|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|220|3095.964,-1666.182,-2634.893|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|221|3096.908,-1677.419,-2633.651|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|222|3111.595,-1691.863,-2645.052|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

2|223|3133.164,-1712.790,-2661.850|0,0,0,0,0,0|PDOP=1|2.017|CONFINE|

4|133|134|51|*S*|

5|PF02/0160/F461|1.765|0|

4|134|133|-61|*S*|

5|PF02/0160/F461|1.55|0|

4|130|131|-43|*S*|

5|132|1.4|0|

4|131|130|63|*S*|

5|132|1.04|0|

7|24|201|202|203|204|205|206|207|208|209|210|NC|

7|0|211|212|213|214|215|216|217|218|219|220|NC|

7|0|221|222|223|201|NC|

8|132|8902.391|-3169.178|[P.A.]|

8|PF02/0160/F461|9104.560000|-2825.372000|50|SPIGOLO N-O FABBR.|

8|PF02/0160/F461|9999.000000|04|QUOTA A TERRA|

8|PF29/0120/F461|9656.543000|-3529.113000|50|CIPPO COMUNALE G.1450|

8|PF29/0120/F461|9999.000000|04|TESTA ASSE CIPPO|





modello censuario

O 217 01 90 88 SR 029

V 217 01 90 88 SR RE 20922 029

Quindi prandino se capisco bene tu hai fatto un rilievo collegato ai fiduciali per la determinazione della SR del mappale n. 217. Non mi è chiaro se il fabbricato che demolisci sia sulla stessa particella oppure no (perchè all'inizio scivi che il fabbricato e poco distante).

Poi non ho capito che tipologia di pregeo useresti per il tuo lavoro.

Saluti

no il fabbricato sarebbe su un altra particella ma che tratterò con un successivo tipo mappale visto l'incongruenza tra i due tipi.



La tipologia è in pregeo 9 Tipo particellare sbaglio?



grazie

Secondo me prandino siamo arrivati alla fine, ok fai un particellare e un tipo mappale, per me è corretto così.

La tipologia tipo particellare con pregeo 9 è corretta, solo un appunto dovrai fare la doppia ripartizione/dimostrazione di superficie in quanto sei fuori tolleranza di 1/20 fra la SN e la SR.

Ciao